Trying to get this

Maybe I missed something somewhere but I still don’t feel like I’ve gotten a clear answer. You have admitted that we all grow and you have admitted that you are not beyond sin but you also have the mind of Christ exactly as Christ did. Christ was without sin and did not grow, he was God, the Alpha and the Omega. Therefore we can not have the mind of Christ and still sin and grow. In my mind it is impossible to be both at the same time. This is deductive reasoning.

Your point about where the Holy Spirit takes effect brings out my doubts on the effect of the Holy Spirit. I don’t always know what beliefs are inline with the Lord. There are far too many denominations and differences of opinion on interpretation of scripture for me to believe that the Holy Spirit brings them all inline. I don’t believe that the Holy Spirit takes our free will from us therefore we have the choice to follow or not to follow hence we have difference of opinion. I don’t believe there is an elite few who all have the same beliefs inline.

You asked if there’s a difference between learned preconceptions and the sense of right and wrong written in the fabric of creation. I don’t understand how you can’t see the difference between learned and innately known? Nature vs. Nurture?